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Memories of Earl Inglish (1873-1958)

Earl Inglish
It’s been so fun for me to learn more about Ralph’s maternal “granddaddy”, Earl Inglish (1873-1958) (and relatedly, his maternal grandmother, Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish (1882-1977).)

Although there’s some information that I’ve been able to learn about him through census records and other documents, the real treasures are the first-hand accounts from his son CI, Grandpa Ralph, and Ralph’s first cousins MJ and AP. Spoiler alert: Earl apparently had quite the sweet tooth; could fix just about anything, from the buckle on a sandal to a cotton gin; had an incredibly high pain tolerance, kept bees (with his son Garland), and had a way of making his grandkids feel so special.

Please note: We can’t confirm the facts 100% on all these details, but these are the family members' remembrances.

Have any stories or photographs to add? We'd love to hear it! If so, please reach out through the Contact Form at the bottom of this page.

(And please forgive the formatting on this post! Blogger was giving me quite the battle, and it seems to have won.)

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Early Years
Earl was born on 27 February 1873, the 3rd of 13 children and the oldest son of Alexander Soloman Inglish (1838-1923) and Martha Ophelia Skipwith (1851-1934). (Fun fact: 9 of the 13 children of Alexander and Martha had names that started with “E”: Ethel, Earl, Edna, Elsie, Emmet, Eva, Ella, Emma, Ernest.)


He was born in Bonham, Fannin County, Texas, a small town (1) that his grandfather, Bailey Inglish (1793-1867) founded.


(I wonder: What was Earl’s father’s (Alexander) occupation? Did they have a farm? Daily life growing up in a household with 13 children?)


Religious Roots
Growing up, Earl’s family were members of the Methodist church, and his father (Alexander Soloman Inglish, 1838-1923) was a devout student of the Bible, even writing articles on various biblical subjects. Alexander taught Earl, his oldest son, that the church that Christ had established when he was on the earth needed to be restored, and that he should seek for that restored church. 


In particular, what encouraged Earl to later  be especially receptive to learning more about the doctrines of Mormonism was learning about the restoration of the Levitical Priesthood to the earth, as this was something in particular that he had studied in the scriptures and was seeking. 


Here’s a brief retelling of their conversion, shared by Ralph and Cousin MJ. (Read a longer account of their conversion to Mormonism/The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints here.)

Recorded 26 October 2018
3:40 min


Courtship and Marriage
Cousin AP recalls:
[They met] at some dance, and somebody wanted her to come over and meet this fellow. I think he introduced himself as Earl Inglish. I can’t remember what it was he said about why he was there, and she made some remark about he looked like one that the cat brought in or the dog brought in, something to that effect....but it didn’t seem to deter his longing to date her. [Chuckles] She talked like she was a little bit smart aleck about it.
When it was time to get married - she was 19, he was 28 - it was a very common practice in that era that “they got in the buggy and rode to the justice of the peace’s home, and just sat in the buggy, he came outside, and married them, and signed all the documents and so forth and gave them, and they went on their way.” As far as AP knows, their parents were not in attendance and there were no witnesses, but we don’t know for sure. They were married 15 December 1901 in Ivanhoe, Fannin County, Texas.


They had 7 children together (5 boys, 2 girls. The two girls are Ralph’s mother and cousins AP and MJ’s mother.)


(Read more about Bertha and their courtship here.)


Setting Up Home
Cousin AP once related how she had mapped out where Earl, Bertha, and their young family lived by looking at where each of their children were born. Genius idea! Here is a similar attempt, with data from census reports included as well. You'll see that they moved around quite a bit, until they settled in Mesa, Arizona.
  • 1902 - Paul, born in Elwood, Fannin County, Texas
  • 1904 - Garland, born in Ivanhoe, Fannin County, Texas
  • 1906 - Juanita, born in Neanda, Jones County, Texas
  • 1909 - Hugh Ophelia, born in Elida, Roosevelt County, New Mexico
  • 1911 - Rayburn, born in Menard, Menard County, Texas
  • 1914 - Alvin, born in Menard, Menard County, Texas
  • 1922 - Carl, born in (city? county?), Arizona 

The census records from 1930 and 1940 list Earl and Bertha as living in Mesa. We know that they lived there from that time until they passed. 

323 S Lesueur Avenue, Mesa, Arizona


The first home that Earl and Bertha ever owned (having lived in rental properties previously) was one built for them in 1945 by their son Ray, at 323 S Lesueur Avenue, Mesa, Arizona. After he returned from World War II, he used his GI Bill to help finance the project.  


(Any memories of the home? Number of bedrooms or bathrooms? Family gatherings here?)


Bertha, Earl, with son Ray
About 1940

Livelihood
Son CI describes him as having been mechanically inclined, working on and maintaining steam tractors and engines. 


Granddaughter AP describes him as a machinist. While their family was young, they were moving west to follow better work opportunities. Earl worked primarily on cotton gins, moving to new locations with his family as employment was available. They would stay for a time (a year or so? we’re unsure) while Earl would fix the machinery and get it in good working order, then would move to another spot when the work was finished and his skills were needed elsewhere. (Read more about their journey west from Texas to Arizona here.)


According to census records, Earl listed the following as his occupations: (2)

  • 1900 Census - age 25, day laborer, living in parents household, Justice Precinct 7, Fannin County, Texas
  • 1920 Census - age 46, farmer (what kind? The census indicates, but the handwriting is hard to read), living in Cartwright, Maricopa County, Arizona
  • 1930 Census - age 57, Retail sales, service station, (Bertha was listed as a “sales lady, service station”. Was this at the same station?), living in Mesa, Maricopa County, Arizona
  • 1940 Census - age 67, Gardener helper, temple grounds,  living in Mesa, Maricopa County, Arizona

From first-hand family accounts, we know that Earl also worked in the boiler room of the Mesa temple, maintaining the heating of the temple, retiring from that around 1950.


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Now, for more personal remembrances, the following are stories that Ralph and his cousins AP and MJ shared about Granddaddy Earl and Grandmother Bertha.



Double Motion, and Sweet Rewards
Cousin AP remembers: 
He loved lemon drops. And my kids cherish the memories of, my oldest daughter would, he was a machinist and would work with metal and filing metal and things like that and he would get metal splinters in his hands. And he would give the kids a lemon drop if they would pick the splinters out of his hands. And so my daughter talks about how she would always go and pick the splinters out. 
And he would also do double motion. Double motion means that when one hand is doing something the other hand is moving the same. Aunt Wee (Juanita) was that way and my brother Hugh was that way, and I think Mauna a little bit. It seemed to get weaker down the generations. I haven’t heard about it in years. He was quite double motion, so he would reach in his pocket and he’d be feeling around to get the lemon drop out but his other hand was moving and the kids would watch it and when those fingers came together they knew he had gotten a hold of it and would be pulling it out. [chuckles.] My kids talk about that all the time, watching Granddad get the lemon drops out of his pocket and taking the splinters out of his hands.

A High Pain Tolerance
AP: I know that whenever he would get a rotten tooth and it would ache, he would take a pair of pliers and go down to Ralph’s mother, Aunt Wee (Juanita)... to have her pull that tooth with a pair of pliers. And no anesthetic, no shots, no nothing, just a pair of pliers. And she finally pulled just about all of his teeth. They wouldn’t use anything to deaden the pain or anything. He would just stand there and take it and she would pull it out. 

Secret Passage Into the Mesa Temple
Another memory from AP:
Granddaddy, when they lived in the little house, this was after they moved out of the Little Jerusalem and they got a house right directly across the street from the temple, from the boiler house. The boiler house…[was] a small building just south of the temple in the parking lot that they called “the boiler house” and it had big tall chimney. That was the way the heated the temple in those days. And he was in charge of the boiler house, to keep the boilers fired up and keep the temple warm in the winter. And there was a tunnel that went from the boiler house into the basement of the temple, right into the baptismal font, underneath where the oxen were.  
Halfway between the boiler house and the temple was a little small building; it looked like a playhouse to me. I thought it was a playhouse when I was a kid. It was actually the ventilation to the temple. It was a square building with a screen around the top and a roof on it. It was after I was baptized -- I was baptized in the Mesa Temple. At that time, we were all baptized there because there were no fonts in any chapels, so many of us our age were baptized in the font at the Mesa Temple.  
And it was after I was baptized, Granddaddy took me through this tunnel—that was the way he got into the temple to check the temperature and make sure everything was correct there—and he took me through that tunnel and let me go up and touch the oxen that were holding the baptismal font. It was just a really neat experience! I do not remember him telling me not to tell anybody, but I never did! Years later, after I was married and I was here visiting with my sister Mauna...we were reminiscing about our childhoods, MJ told this story about Granddaddy taking her through this tunnel into the baptismal font. And I said, “Oh, he took me too!” And [another family member] said “Oh, he took me too!” None of us had told anyone else until then, so we decided that as the children were baptized, that was what he did: he took them in to touch that oxen that were holding the baptismal font. It was kind of a neat experience for an eight-year-old child!


Personality
From AP:
AP: I never heard her [Grandmother Bertha] raise her voice or get upset or mad at anybody or anything. She did get a little out of sorts with Granddaddy every once in awhile. [Chuckles]RM: Earl! [Chuckles]AP: He was quite overweight and he loved to eat candy bars. And sometimes I think he did it just to get at her. So he would sit and eat candy bars and he was real quite overweight, and she’d ask him how it felt to pregnant all of the time. [Chuckles] The more she fussed at him about those kinds of things, the more he did it. [Chuckles]

Here, Ralph and MJ share memories of Granddaddy Earl and Grandmother Bertha: Walking home from school and visiting with Granddaddy who was working at the Mesa Temple; Granddaddy pulling his friend's tooth; sugary indulgences; napping on the porch; fixing shoes.

Recorded 26 October 2018
7:34 min


And here, Ralph and MJ share memories of Grandmother's homemade pancakes and biscuits; Granddaddy with his hot drink and bowl of sugar; snuggling Granddaddy in his chair; and hearing aids

Recorded 26 October 2018

3:20 min


Death
Earl passed away on 13 February 1958 in El Paso, Texas, while visiting his son CI who was living there. He was two weeks shy of turning 85. He is buried in the City of Mesa Cemetery next to his wife Bertha. (3)




Sources: 
  • From conversation with CI and JI on 9 August 2015
  • Phone call with AP and RM, grandchildren, on 11 October 2015
  • Video of Ralph and MJ filmed 26 October 2018

Notes:
1. Population of Bonham in 1870: 928. In 1880: 1889 - Quite the population boom! Source: http://population.us/tx/bonham/
2. Earl's occupations through the years, according to census records:
  • 1900 Census - age 25, day laborer: "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3G3-661 : accessed 5 May 2016), Earl English in household of Alex English, Justice Precinct 7, Fannin, Texas, United States; citing sheet 12B, family 225, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,241,634.
  • 1920 Census - age 46, farmer (what kind? The census indicates, but the handwriting is hard to read. Include a screenshot) - "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MCR2-VFF : accessed 5 May 2016), Earl Inglish, Cartwright, Maricopa, Arizona, United States; citing sheet 5B,  NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,820,049.
  • 1930 Census - age 57, Retail sales, service station. (Bertha was listed as a “sales lady, service station”. Was this at the same station?  "United States Census, 1930", database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH1S-CVT : accessed 5 May 2016), Earl Inglish, 1930.
  • 1940 Census - age 67, Gardener helper, temple grounds. "United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VYWT-M88 : accessed 5 May 2016), Earl Inglish, Mesa, Supervisorial District 1, Maricopa, Arizona, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 7-68B, sheet 11A, family 253, NARA digital publication T627 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012), roll 106.
3. The location of Earl and Bertha's graves in the City of Mesa Cemetery: Block 531, Lot 1, Graves 1 and 2.

Places of Significance: Mesa, Arizona

I recently sat down with Ralph and we scrolled through my camera roll, looking at photos that he or my parents had shared with me of the various homes family members had lived in, as well as other places of significance, in Mesa, Arizona. Here's the roundup!

As you see these photos and read through the descriptions, if these trigger any memories, we'd love to hear! Please reach out and share!

257 S Hobson Street
This is the duplex where George and Kate Findlay lived, with teenage daughters Ina and Ella, when they first arrived in Mesa from Scotland in 1949. It's on the corner of S Hobson and East 3rd Avenue. They lived here until George built a home for them, just a few houses away.

How long did they live here? (until 1953?) How many bedrooms? Square feet? Any unique features about it? Has it changed much since the family lived here?

257 S Hobson Street
Photo taken October 2016


251 S Hobson Street
This is the home that George Findlay built for his family, which was under construction when Ralph and Ella got married in March of 1953. It's just north of the duplex where the Findlays were living when they first moved to Mesa.

How long did they live here? (until 1953?) How many bedrooms? Square feet? Any unique features about it? Has it changed much since the family lived here?


251 S Hobson Street
Photo taken October 2016

323 S Lesueur Avenue
This is the home where Earl and Bertha Inglish lived, and where Ralph was living (in the basement) when he was in his senior year of high school and he met Ella.

This was the first house that Earl and Bertha owned. Prior to that they had always been in rentals. 

How long did they live here? How many bedrooms? Square feet? Any unique features about it? Has it changed much since the family lived here?

Ralph shared his Uncle Ray built this home, using money he received from his GI Bill after World War II. In fact, Ralph helped dig out the basement with his cousin Don Johnson. (By hand?) It was a one-room basement, with an outside stairway. (That's how basements were built at the time - more for storage.)


323 S Lesueur Avenue
Photo taken October 2016

323 S Lesueur Avenue
Photo taken October 2016

323 S Lesueur Avenue
Photo taken May 2018

629 East Main Street
This the Dairy Queen where Ralph would occasionally work as a teenager. The exterior hadn't changed much in 70 years. Unfortunately, this building was razed in May 2018.

When Ralph was growing up, there were two Dairy Queens in Mesa, owned by two brothers. Milford Wray had the location on Country Club Drive on the west end of Mesa, just south of Main Street. And his brother Jesse Wray had the location on Main Street in the east side of Mesa near the LDS temple.

Ralph usually worked at the location at Country Club Drive - from his sophomore to senior years of high school, about 2 1/2 years - but he would help clean the east location sometimes as well. Ella would come down and help too - this was when they were dating. 

The location at 629 East Main Street had a simple set up: it was an ice cream dispensary with 2 doors, two windows that they served ice cream from. No place to sit down and eat it - walk up only (not even picnic tables outside.) But despite all this, it was still a popular place!

The location at Country Club Drive is still in operation, though the building has been rebuilt.


629 East Main Street
Photo taken May 2018
446 East Broadway Road
In the 1950s, this was known as the LDS 5th Ward Chapel, and this is where Ralph and Ella held their wedding reception. It was just about a block away from Earl and Bertha's home at 323 S Lesueur Avenue, on the corner of E Broadway Road and S Lesueur Street. It's no longer an LDS chapel but rather a school (called the New Horizon School).


Former LDS 5th Ward Chapel
Photo taken October 2016

Former LDS 5th Ward Chapel
Photo taken October 2016

1012 S Horne Street

This is the home where Bertha Inglish and daughters Juanita and Hugh Ophelia lived after they were all widows. (Love the pink! Though looking at the current home on Google, it's now white.) 

My favorite story about the three of them I've heard thus far is about the VW bug they'd cruise around in together! Hah! And how they would frequent the Dairy Queen together, like Three Musketeers.


1012 S Horne Street
Photo courtesy of cousin SB

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Sources:

Questions:
  • What other places of significance should we include here?
    • The home where Ralph's Uncle Ray lived? Also on S Lesueur, right next to Grandma Bertha and Grandpa Earl Inglish?

Would love to:
  • Plot all of these on a map. Add that to the to-do list!

Our Own Castle: Eilean Donan

Eilean Donan - Image Source

Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish, Ralph’s maternal grandmother, would often get a dreamy look in her eye as she’d say, “You know, we have a castle in Scotland? The MacRae Castle!”

I imagine that Bertha had grown up being told stories of her Scottish ancestors. Her mother was a McRae(1)—Mary Ann McRae (1853-1899)—and it was Bertha’s great grandfather (Ralph’s 3rd great grandfather)—Hugh Bain McRae (1761-1853)—who had immigrated from Scotland to America.(2)



Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish and her mother Mary Ann McRae Copeland
(Ralph's grandmother and great grandmother)

Grandmother Bertha couldn’t say where “their” castle was located, so Ralph and Ella started doing a little more research. They initially came up empty handed: there are no castles in Scotland named “The MacRae Castle.”

However, when Ralph and Ella were on their first trip back to Scotland (in the late 1990’s), they asked around and finally found someone who had more information: It’s the Eilean Donan Castle (pronounced “EEE-lan DAWN-an”), perched on an island where three lochs meet in the western Highlands. With its prominent location and stunning backdrop, it has become one of the most widely recognized castles in all of Scotland.


Eilean Donan, located in the western Highlands

Eilean Donan means "island of Donnán” (Donnán was a Celtic saint), and the first fortified castle was erected here about the mid-13th century. The castle later got the nickname of the “MacRae Castle” because the MacRae clan became constables to it in 1509, ensuring the safety of the MacKenzie clan, who were the lairds, and protecting and maintaining the surrounding areas.(3)

In 1719 much of the castle was destroyed in a Jacobite uprising, and it was in this state for 200 years until purchased by Lieutenant Colonel John MacRae-Gilstrap, a descendant of the last MacRae constables. He spent 20 years (from 1911 to 1932) painstakingly restoring it to its former glory.


Eilean Donan in ruins, before fully restored in 1932. Image Source.

What’s interesting to note is that the castle as we see it now was not in this state until 1932. The castle that Grandmother Bertha was told about what likely the version of it in ruins, as her ancestors had immigrated in the 1800s. Wouldn’t she really think it was dreamy if she saw it now!

Also interesting: Robert the Bruce is believed to have sheltered at Eilean Donan during the winter of 1306 to 1307— our family lines cross (he is Ella’s 20th great grandfather)!(4)

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Ralph shares the story of his grandmother, Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish, and the Eilean Donan Castle.
Filmed 24 November 2020 (Min 3:34)

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I know that many of our family have made a pilgrimage to this site. Have a photo you'd like share? Let me know! I'd love to add it.

McRae descendants return - 2008

KF and sister AG - 2008
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Notes:
  1. Note that our family line spells their surname as “McRae” while the clan is “MacRae.” Did our ancestors ever spell it as the latter variation?
  2. We’re still trying to determine when Hugh Bain McRae (1761-1853) immigrated to the United States. I’d love to know why and how too! A journey of that distance at that time in history doesn’t sound like a comfortable one. Did he come when he was 8 years old, with his parents, Malcolm M. McRae (1743-1834) and Isabel Bain (1745-1817)? Some info seems to suggest that.

Memories of Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish (1882-1977)

Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish
About Age 16
There was lots of laughter when I asked Ralph and cousin AP to tell me more about their grandmother, Bertha Clarice Copeland Inglish (1882-1977), whom they were very close to growing up. She was a hard worker, a natural at raising children, had a prolific garden, loved ice cream from Dairy Queen, and was an excellent cook (including at making a crowd-pleasing cornbread stuffing). Her hair was often worn back in a tight bun, and her eyes sparkled.

Here are some stories shared about her by Ralph and cousin AP (grandchildren of Bertha), as well as BR (great granddaughter). What more can we add here? Please leave a comment (short or long) in the contact form at the bottom of this page - we’d love to fill in the details of her life to get to know her better.

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Overview
Born in Telephone, Texas, on 25 August 1882, she was the sixth of nine children of Samuel W. Copeland (1835-1902) and Mary Ann McRae (1853-1899). At age 19 she married Earl Inglish (1873-1958) in Ivanhoe, Texas - he was 28.

Earl and Bertha had 6 children together, and by the time she passed away at age 94, she was survived by great, great grandchildren (would be interesting to know how many!) - 5 generations alive at the same time.

She and Earl were converts to the LDS church, and after passing away, both were buried in the City of Mesa Cemetery.


Early Years
Born in Telephone, Fannin County, Texas, Bertha loved to say that there wasn’t a telephone in the town at the time. Her father, Samuel Copeland, was a schoolteacher (1), and her mother, Mary Ann McRae, was busy caring for their 9 children and their home. (2)

When Bertha was 16, her mother passed away. With her father needing to support the family, he needed someone to help take care of his children, so they went to live with his sister. (3)

AP: Her mother died, I think in childbirth, with one of the younger children. And her father went to live with his sister. Her father was a school teacher, and he took his children and went to live with his sister. They owned a big plantation or something where there were a lot of workers, and they would cook the meals for the workers. She said that her cousins, the children of the aunt she was living with, they were kind of lazy and didn’t do much, but she stayed in the kitchen and helped her aunt all the time and helped her fix the meals for all the people that worked at this place.

She would tell us how they would go out way early in the morning to start working and then they would come in for breakfast, about breakfast time, they would get up about day break and do what they could before, then they’d come in to eat and always have a big breakfast of fried potatoes, eggs, and pancakes, and biscuits, the whole works. And then, they would just barely get the kitchen cleaned up in time to start the dinner. The next meal was dinner, and all the workers would come in hungry from the field and they would feed them. And in the evening, they would just snack on bread and milk and onions, something like that. … She mostly stayed in the kitchen and helped her aunt with all those meals. (4)

Courtship and Marriage
AP: [They met] at some dance, and somebody wanted her to come over and meet this fellow. I think he introduced himself as Earl Inglish. I can’t remember what it was he he said about why he was there, and she made some remark about he looked like one that the cat brought in or the dog brought in, something to the that effect....but it didn’t seem to deter his longing to date her. [Chuckles] She talked like she was a little bit smart aleck about it.

When it was time to get married - she was 19, he was 28 - it was a very common practice in that era that “they got in the buggy and rode to the justice of the peace’s home, and just sat in the buggy, he came outside, and married them, and signed all the documents and so forth and gave them, and they went on their way.” As far as AP knows, their parents were not in attendance and there were no witnesses, but we don’t know for sure.

Personality
AP: She really was kind of quiet. She wasn’t real outspoken.
RM: I would say she was opinionated but not overbearing or outspoken.
AP: Right! That’s it! Opinionated but not overbearing or outspoken, really.
RM: But she did get her point across!
AP: I never heard her raise her voice or get upset or mad at anybody or anything. She did get a little out of sorts with Granddaddy every once in awhile. [Chuckles]
RM: Earl! [Chuckles]
AP: He was quite overweight and he loved to eat candy bars. And sometimes I think he did it just to get at her. So he would sit and eat candy bars and he was real quite overweight, and she’d ask him how it felt to pregnant all of the time. [Chuckles] The more she fussed at him about those kinds of things, the more he did it. [Chuckles]

Daily Life
AP: She was a very good cook. You never wasted a thing. When you set a dish on the table to be served, if there was anything left in the bowl, even just a little bit, it got put away in the refrigerator and it came out at that next meal. And so besides whatever she fixed for that meal, we would have all these little dishes of leftovers.

She was always big on having a big breakfast. She would do biscuits and pancakes and toast...we always had something of that sort, along with eggs and bacon and sometimes potatoes or cooked cereal, cream of wheat or oatmeal or cracked wheat, something like that.

A Hard Worker and Always Active
AP: She was [a very hard worker]. All of her life she gardened and was very active. When Uncle Ray finally built a new home for them, kind of up the street from the ward building, and there was a little park right there next to the ward building, she would go out and take her walk around that park every morning.

Her Grandchildren Growing Up Near Her
AP: I did live with her in high school. My family was living in Phoenix, and I went back to live with Grandmother in Mesa so I could attend Mesa High School…. But as a child growing up, we didn’t necessarily live with them, but we spent a lot of time at their place.

They lived in a little section of Mesa that we used to call “Little Jerusalem” [which has since been torn down and built as condos for temple workers] because it it was just a bunch of little houses built by the LDS people, and the house that Grandmother and Granddaddy lived in looked just like the houses in Jerusalem. It was sparse, two-story, had two rooms on the bottom - kind of a living room/bedroom combination and then a kitchen - and then there was one full room up above. And the stairs went up on the outside of the house, to the room that was up above. And at first there was no bathroom or anything; they did put a toilet underneath the staircase finally, and you bathed in the wash tub.

We spent lots of evenings there, Thanksgivings and just every little bit we were at Grandma’s house for dinner and playing around the yard there.

When they lived in this Little Jerusalem area, it was south of the temple, and we lived about a block north of the temple, on the other side of Main St. in Mesa, and if Mother was not at home, we were to go to Grandmother’s. And so, lots of time after heading home from school, I would walk across and I remember running my hands along the bars of the temple fence there. I was talking to M [her sister] last week and she was talking about how she would run her hands along the bars of the temple fence too! There were just little bars that go up and down. We would get a stick or use our fingers and run them along those bars as we walked by the temple on our way to Grandma’s.

A Natural at Raising Children
AP: She was quite the lady! When I went to high school and lived with her, I got a real education on how to raise children. She was always telling me how I should do it. Take your children to church and don’t let their feet touch the floor. Teach them how to sit on the bench and behave. She said if you raise your first children right then the others you don’t need to worry about. I learned a lot! I give Grandma credit for a lot of my skills and knowledge that I gained to raise my family.

She babysat children until she was I think 92...I remember our chorus teacher when I was in high school, she took care of his children and she took care of their doctor’s children. And she was up in her early 90s babysitting! The people that she babysat for loved her. They thought that she was the best, and so when she did have this stroke, the first thing they did was call the doctor she had been babysitting for.

She was just very strict about teaching children integrity, honesty, all those kinds of things to really focus on teaching children properly to grow up to be good parents. And she would say, when you spank your children, you should tell them, “I’m spanking you because I love you and I want other people to love you too. I love you no matter what but I want other people to love you too, so I spank you to know how to behave so other people will like you.”

KF: I wish I could call her up when I have parenting questions! AP: Yes, I’ve thought about that a few times too! RM: How would Grandma handle this? [All chuckle]

Teaching Life Skills and Life Lessons
RM: I think we were all aware of how fair she was, and how firm, how strict and firm, but fair. There was no monkey business.
AP: Right! You did not put your feet on the couch! You did not jump on the bed! I never allowed my kids to do that either! And now the kids just tear the place up! [Chuckles]
RM: She taught us to take care of the things we got.
AP: We grew up during the depression. When something got broken, you could not replace it! So we took care of what we had and used it for many many years.

AP: She taught us to be polite. She was extremely strict in some of these things but always taught us to have good manners. To say please and thank you, and respect your elders and all this kind of stuff. She was very quiet about it. She didn’t raise her voice. She was very staunch for things that were not proper.

As an example, there was an argument that Larry and I had when we were dating. My family was living in Phoenix and I wanted to go to Mesa High, so I had to live with Grandmother to be able to do that. So I would live with Grandmother during the week and then go home on weekends. I met Larry when I was a freshman in high school, and at about basketball season was our first date, and we dated all the rest of that year. Then I went back to Phoenix to be with my family, and he was living in Mesa, and so I told him, “I know that I’ll be coming back to Grandmother’s this summer because she had some painting she wanted me to help her do.” He said, “When you come, call me and let me know that you’re here, and I’ll come get you and we’ll go do something.”

So when I got to Grandmother’s, Grandmother didn’t have a phone but the neighbors next door did, and I was real close friends with the girl there. And I wanted to go next door to use the telephone to call Larry to let him know that I was there. And Grandmother would not hear of it. Girls did not call boys! When I look back on it now, I think most girls nowadays would have just gone over to their friend's house and used the phone and called. But I didn’t! I was told not to do it, and I did not do it. Even though I was over there visiting with my girlfriend, I did not dare call Larry and let him know!

The whole week went by and it was time for me to go home, and I was feeling sad because I hadn’t been able to make contact with him and let him know that I was there, and I was sitting out on the lawn in front of Grandmother’s house when Larry rode by on his bicycle. And he saw me! So he stopped. He was happy that I was there in Mesa. He said, “When do you you have to go home?” I said, “Tomorrow.” He said, “I thought you were going to be here for a week. I said, “Well, I have been, but Grandmother would not let me call you.” Well, Larry had kind of a quick temper. He just got on his bicycle and rode off. I was devastated! I cried and cried!

Before he had asked me this, he had mentioned his brother’s wedding reception that night and wanted to know if I would like to go with him to this wedding reception. And I said yes. But when he got mad and rode off I didn’t know whether he was going to come back or not! And I went in and cried to M. M was there and she was going to spend the night, and the both of us were going to go home the next morning. And I cried to M, “Grandma wouldn’t let me call him and now he’s mad at me!” Oh, I was so sad and cried and my eyes were all swollen red!

And there was a knock at the door and M sent me to answer it, and it was Larry. And he was standing there with his chin and his lip quivering, and he wanted an explanation. And when I explained to him that Grandmother would not let me go call him, then he realized it wasn’t my fault. We made up and we went to the reception that night. That was my first sad love argument, or however you want to call it! But Grandmother was very strict that way. You did not do those things that were improper! [Chuckles] And we did not cross her! When she said don’t do it, we did not do it!

Teaching Lessons through Singing Songs
AP: As they were raising their family, they spent a lot of time in the evening singing songs. They had a lot of cute songs! They would put famous poems to music, and then they would sings these songs. Mom used to sing them to us.

She had the song about the grasshopper, the grasshopper who once had a game of ball with a cricket who lived nearby.

“The grasshopper once had a game of ball with a cricket who lived nearby.
But he stubbed his toe and oh he [wept?] in the twinkling of an eye.
The cricket leaned up against the wall and laughed ‘til his sides were sore.
But the grasshopper said, you are laughing at me, and I won’t play anymore.
So off he went, though he wanted to stay, for he was not hurt by his [?].
But the great gay little crickets went on with their play, and never missed him at all.
A bright eyed [squirrel?] called out in defense, hanging from a tree by his toe,
[Not sure of the lyrics here] where that grasshopper was, but he [?] on his own little nose.  

She would use that in teaching us - don’t get upset over things. Let it go, go play, or they’re just going to play without you. And we have sung that song to our kids, and my kids have sung it to their kids. In fact my daughter now says she’ll go play with the crickets and let the grasshopper do what it wants.

There was also the one about “The Nobody Man.” If we had done something and she couldn’t get to the bottom of what happened, then she’d start singing about the Nobody Man.

“I walked one day, a long long way, to a topsy turvy town,
But it rained all night and it [shined?] all day in the land of Upside Down ...

And it goes on to tell about why he is the Nobody Man and how he takes the blame for anything that nobody will own up to. When she had trouble getting to the bottom of the quarrel and whose fault it was, she would just kind of walk off singing “The Nobody Man”, and blame it all on “the Nobody Man.” She’d do that a lot! Sometimes she didn’t really say anything but would just sing the song and go on and leave us to ponder because we knew what she was talking about.

KF: Did either of your grandparents parents play a musical instrument? Were these songs accompanied by a harmonica or guitar or anything?

AP: No, I don’t think they played any instruments. They just sang the songs there. That was just what they did in the evening in those days, ya know, because they were living out in the middle of the prairie a lot of times. No TV, no radio, no nothing. And so they would just sit around in the evening and sing songs.

Happy Memories and Funny Stories
AP: She loved Dairy Queen. [RM: “I worked there so I would bring some home.”] And in between times she would go down and get some! When her and Mom and Aunt Wee [Juanita, Ralph’s mother] lived together, they always went nearly every evening to get ice cream at Dairy Queen. The neighbors all around there used to call them the Three Musketeers.

RM: I brought a quart of Dairy Queen home one time. We had some for supper, and put it back in the refrigerator. The next day, I asked her, “Can I have some Dairy Queen?” and she said, “We don’t have any. There wasn’t enough left in the quart to freeze it.” [She had finished it off all by herself!]




AP: I remember the day she got her hand in the wringer, in the old wringer washing machine. She was putting the clothes through the wringer to wring them dry to put into the next tub, and she got her fingers caught some way and it went almost all the way up to her elbow before we could figure out how to stop it. There was a safety handle there to release it. It was pretty red and bruised for a long time! I don’t remember whether she went to the doctor or anything. I don’t think she did.

Toward the End of Her Life
One morning she went out - we were talking about how her mind was really good. She was alert and didn’t seem to have any dementia, she participated in the Sunday School class that Sunday, and went out Monday morning and took her walk around the park and came in and was fixing her breakfast when she had a stroke. She lived for about a week after that but she was completely immobile and really didn’t know what was going on at all.... My daughters and I and others who were able there took turns staying the night and sometimes during the day to come and take care of her.

She babysat for a doctor there in Mesa who was very good - he was her regular doctor. And that doctor’s family loved her like their own. So he was the first person they called. And he told them, because of her age and the situation we weren’t to do anything, just keep her mouth moist, give her a little Jell-O if we could. Other than that, just let her relax and keep her taken care of. She lived about a week in that condition.

She passed away on 2 May 1977 and was buried in the Mesa Cemetery. She was 94 years old. (5)


Bertha's Gravestone in the Mesa Cemetery
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Memories shared from MJ, Granddaughter

Here, Ralph's cousin MJ shares how Grandmother sharing wisdom and spiritual/scriptural messages; joining MJ for school programs; teaching her how to sew.

Recorded 26 October 2018
2:14 min

And here, Ralph and MJ share about Grandmother's pancakes and biscuits, Grandaddy with his hot drink, snuggling Grandaddy in his chair and his hearing aids.

Recorded 26 October 2018
3:20 min

Memories from BR, Great Granddaughter
One time when Grandma Inglish was visiting us, I was in high school, I asked how long her hair was because she always wore it in a bun at her neck. She disappeared then returned to the room and her hair was let down. It was all the way down her back. She was so cute.

She always traveled with a bottle of blackstrap molasses. She had some everyday. [Her build] was small and thin. I don’t know if she shrunk but I remember her being small. She had a mild [Texan] accent. Very mild. Her eyes sparkled.

She had the most amazing garden. Her sweet peas were huge and growing outside her kitchen window. Her vegetable garden was huge, out in back of the house.



Obituary for Bertha


Newspaper Article about Mesa's Gay Nineties Club
20 Sept 1972


Funeral Program

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Sources:
  • Phone call with AP and RM, grandchildren, on 11 October 2015
  • Text from BR, great granddaughter, November 2015
  • Videos of Ralph and MJ recorded 26 October 2018

Notes:
  1. Did Samuel Copeland teach a particular grade or subject? Or did he teach at a one-room school house? In which city did he teach? AP has a copy of his teaching certificate. Note also: The 1880 United States Census lists his occupation as “laborer.” See "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFN4-BM7 : accessed 9 March 2016), Sam W Copeland, Precinct 6, Fannin, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district ED 29, sheet 498D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1303; FHL microfilm 1,255,303.)
  2. The 1880 United States Census lists Mary Ann McRae’s occupation as “keeps house.” See "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFN4-BMW : accessed 11 March 2016), Mary A Copeland in household of Sam W Copeland, Precinct 6, Fannin, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district ED 29, sheet 498D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1303; FHL microfilm 1,255,303.)
  3. FamilySearch lists Mary Ann McRae’s death date as 26 Jun 1899 in Elwood, TX. However, her youngest child, Arthur Bryan Copeland, is listed as being born in 1890 (after she had passed away?) in Telephone, TX. These dates then don’t seem quite correct. Was this the child she died in childbirth with? Or even, did she in fact die in childbirth?
  4. Which aunt did Bertha, her widower father, and siblings go live with after her mother passed away? AP thinks it was a sister of her father, but no sisters are listed on FamilySearch. AP thinks there was a set of twin cousins, children of that aunt. Or was it one of her mother’s sisters? Did her 3 younger siblings (Rosie, Hugh, and Arthur) and the sibling just older than her, Walter, join them also? Thinking on it more, did her widower father come as well, or did he work elsewhere while the aunt looked after the children? What city was this in?   
  5. Does anyone have an obituary or funeral program for her?